My work colleague, Jimmy, is a man in his mid thirties. Life has been hard for him: surrounded by alcoholism, attending a bunch of schools, leaving home at a young age. It wouldn't be terribly surprising if he had landed himself in gaol at some point but instead he works in a church shop, knows every process we have and is unfailingly pleasant to customers.
When not in a public role, Jimmy also can have a hair trigger temper and is aggressively anti anything that could be regarded as progressive or woke.
Jimmy has eaten Mc Donalds nearly every day since he was 18 but has recently decided it's too expensive to continue that way and is trying to learn to cook. He isn't learning in the way I would teach and he chooses odd projects like working his way through a book of burger recipes but he persists. He brings his creations for me to try, prints out recipes he wants me to cook and talks about his successes and failures.
I've been cooking since I was a kid, have cooked for a family, have sometimes cooked for guests. I've cooked anything I'm interested in cooking and these days I'm pretty much over it so it's a bit surprising to me that Jimmy has managed to talk me into trying some new things. He's positive when I show him a photo of something new I've made, despite our very different styles and tastes. (his style: meat, meat and more meat. My style: one pan and under six ingredients)
I regard Jimmy as a friend, maybe a temporary/ situational friend but a friend all the same. He doesn't regard me as a friend because we don't spend time together away from work.
I have known my friend Jill for perhaps 20 years. We have visited each others houses, watched TV together, been to the movies, eaten out, been shopping together. I have stayed at her place and she has stayed at mine. When she retired in circumstances she found hurtful, I spent all the money I had to get to the retirement celebration. It was Jill I holidayed with in March. Six days together was a record and it may have been the end for us. We had words while we were away. It was uncomfortable but I didn't say or do anything I feel was unreasonable or that I am ashamed of. We hugged when we parted but she hasn't sent me any of the photos I've asked for and since then, every time I have have suggested we spend time together has been politely declined with no offer of an alternative.
Sometimes I wonder which rule book I should use.
Ouch. I hope that Jill comes round, but wonder. At least she is being polite.
ReplyDeleteI would agree with your assessment of Jimmy as a friend - and love that despite your differences you are both gaining things from the relationship.
Rule books? Nah. They never fit all circumstances.
You're right about rule books.
DeleteI'm sorry to read about Jill. I hope she comes around and that you can make up properly with each other.
ReplyDeleteI drifted from one of my closest friends. I miss her, but, I am still too cross to make any overtures.
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It's hard, isn't it? And nobody expects to be dealing with this stuff past college age
DeleteI’ve only been ‘let down’ by one person….which proved to me that my thoughts on getting too close to people were correct.
ReplyDeleteHere’s hoping you can salvage (if that’s what you want) your friendship- but it’ll never be the same. I’d take Jimmy over Jill any day.
The longer it's like this, the more I wonder if it's what I want. I also wonder if I imagine it.
DeleteI know where I stand with Jimmy and I suspect he'd be more forgiving
Some people are challenging to get along with. You pick up the pieces and move on.
ReplyDeleteI'm usually pretty good at moving forward but this one is challenging
DeleteIt's hard to lose a friend of over twenty years. And we can drive ourselves mad trying to figure out what went wrong, what word triggered another person. I do believe she's sending you messages along the ghosting line.
ReplyDeleteJimmy sounds like a good egg and I like that you get along and are clear on the boundaries.
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Jimmy is a better person than he thinks he is
DeleteVery mysterious that a friend you've known for 20 years should suddenly take umbrage at some chance remark or action and simply cut you dead. Surely some absurd intolerance on her side?
ReplyDeleteShe's not usually intolerant but she is often unaware of expected norms
DeleteFriends are a puzzle sometimes. Guys make better friends in the long run. Women are so touchy if they don't get their thoughts validated right and left. With women it is complicated.
ReplyDeleteI think female friendships can be wonderful: funny, supportive & life affirming. But all the parties need to have the skills to keep it on track
DeleteOh no. I guess this is life and we have to deal with it.
ReplyDeleteThanks for visiting, Nas. Yes, all we can do is deal with things and I am
DeleteFriendship is tricky. I wonder if you can be friends with someone who doesn't consider you a friend. I've decided I'm not very good at friendship at all. I put that down to bad habits acquired in childhood where I learnt that in the end, you can only rely on yourself. It's a sad way to think I guess, but I have had some really good friendships and they ended badly. Like you I don't feel I said or did anything I shouldn't have - just a divergence of some fundamental life views. I'm a bad friend, because I don't chase the friendship. I don't initiate contact. I'm a good friend in that if someone really needed me to be there - I would be.
ReplyDeleteSorry, should have signed that comment. Don't know what's happened to my Blogger account. Michelle (Mad Fish)
DeleteIt seems that it's common to decide not to try relying on other people. I understand that view but I'm very aware that as a single person, I don't have a default companion and while I have wonderful friendships with my kids, they are busy people and will continue to be.
DeleteI've decided not to chase this one but if it suddenly becomes active again, I'll be there (perhaps with some caution)
A few people seem to be having issues with blogger, I hope you can resolve it
How sad that something cracked between you and Jill. Maybe she has not heard of the saying, "Let bygones be bygones".
ReplyDeleteAs for Jimmy - if only he appreciated that there's more to food than burgers but at least he is not as addicted to McDonalds as he once was.
In some areas Jimmy has a growth mindset he should be proud of but not so much in the area of food variety.
DeleteI'm sad about Jill but someone once said "don't go where you're not wanted" and it's good advice
I am trying to catch up with old blog friends, one at a time, and it seems a funny coincidence that the second post of yours I've landed on is about friendship.
ReplyDeleteMy husband and I were our own little world, and never needed anyone else. It's made life lonely now that he's gone. I don't have anyone I consider a close friend although my sister-in-law, one neighbour, and one co-worker are people I get along well with and can talk about almost anything with. Maybe that IS the definition of close friends. I don't know.. But I believe that friends can be any age and friendships can look different with different people. And friendships can begin, change, and end over the course of our lives. We all change and sometimes that can make a casual acquaintance into a friend - or a friend into a former friend. I'm sorry you seem to have lost a friend. It takes a while to process that and move on.
I think all of what you have said is true and judging by the people who prefer not to rely on others, it would seem that a lot of us have our needs met in our partnerships.
DeleteIf I have lost her, it will be ok but as you say, it has taken some processing
I thought I left a comment here but ... nothing is showing up. Maybe it's gone to spam?
ReplyDeleteAha, I think it's in for approval :)
ReplyDeleteIt was! But I found one in spam, too
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